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Jon HassellArticle from Music Technology, December 1987 |
American trumpeter extraordinaire talks to John Diliberto about horns, electronics and Indian ragas; '60s experimentation meets '80s chic.
The current interest in wind synthesis makes trumpeter Jon Hassel something of a prophet - with Gabriel, Sylvian, Eno and Talking Heads already amongst his acolytes.
"I'm still using the Mirage, although I'd like to phase that out. It's not as clean as I would like to have it, but sometimes the lack of cleanness can be good."
"I don't mind talking about technology", contradicts Hassell, "but I'd rather talk about it in general terms than I would in terms of hardware. I think that's just part of development. One develops things, and while it's easy for anybody with a reasonable vocabulary of these things to look at the stage and see more or less what's going on, somehow I just resist it. I think it's kind of proprietary in a way. And boring."
THERE'S NO DENYING that the allure of Hassell's music - whether it be the studio imagery he affects with producers like Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois, the digital mosaic of Aka/Darbari/Java, or his live performances, combining digital sampling, electronic percussion and his stereo processing - comes from that intersection of technology and primitive musics. And Hassell knows it.
"There's hardly a room I walk into that doesn't have a mains socket, so why should I penalise myself or not let this thing happen on some theoretical notion that when the power goes out there's no music? If I were on an island someplace in a small community of people, I would welcome developing a completely non-electronic manner of doing things. When I studied raga I played for years and years without doing any electronics, they were all added after the fact."
When he recorded Fourth World Volume 1: Possible Musics, Hassell's integration of electronics into his trumpet playing was complete. His setup has remained fairly stable since that 1980 recording, running his trumpet through a harmoniser, currently from Advance Music Systems, and two Electro Harmonix digital delays. ("I'm looking for something a little higher quality.")
He also employs a variety of reverb units. In the studio it's a Lexicon 224. "Dan (Lanois) loves the sound of the old 224", he says. "In concert I've been using the Yamaha REV7 and the Roland DRV2000, but neither of them seem to give the creamy sound on the trumpet that the Lexicon does, so I'm sort of shopping for an old Lexicon to take on the road with me."
"There's something about the volume of air that drums pump, even if you sampled all that and tried to duplicate it, I don't think it could have the same real feel."
In a recent interview, Eno declared that Hassell is one of the most technologically inventive composers of this era, yet Hassell still asserts his technological naïveté. He claims that he defers to people like J A Deane and Daniel Lanois when it comes to the technology. Describing his studio interaction with Lanois, Hassell says: "I yield to him in all technical decisions and in many aesthetic ones. He has a wonderful ear on both a musical level and a technical level, and a very sympathetic manner." But Hassell's intrinsic understanding of technology and how to make it serve his music is not to be underestimated.
"I'm still using the Mirage, although I'd like to phase that out", he confesses. "It's not as clean as I would like to have it, but sometimes the lack of cleanness can be good. I've gotten fond of the strings, I use them quite often. Sometimes I hear strings on other samplers and they sound too bright, too sharp. But there are other drawbacks. I definitely would like to upgrade out of that."
Hassell recently completed a score for director Peter Sellars music theatre production of Zangezi by the Russian Futurian poet Velimir Khlebnikov. The score involves using an Akai S900 with an Oberheim MIDI controller and a Mirage, and is designed as a real-time performance piece to accompany the play. At one point during the scoring process, he sampled birds from a laboratory of ornithology at Cornell University. "One of the scenes called for a lot of Russian birds", says Hassell, "so the touchstone for a lot of the scoring was getting birdcalls and dealing with them - and I mixed it with a little pygmy voice fragment. Orioles down two octaves sound like pygmy voices, and this one little pygmy phrase up two octaves sounds very much like a bird, so there was a nice crossing there. That first section was like birds and gods, and the musical texture used to represent the gods and birds was this sort of intermingling of languages."
Despite his extensive work in the studio, Hassell's music is geared towards live performances, allowing extensive improvisation and spontaneity. His forthcoming live album, The Surgeon of the Nightsky Restores Dead Things by the Power of Sound, due out on Intuition/EMI this autumn, is largely a result of improvisations with Deane, synthesists Jean-Philippe Rykiel and Richard Horowitz, and others. "Right", agrees Hassell. "This is actually stuff that's followed on the heels of Power Spot. Each night we would go into an extended improv after the planned program, and those turned out to be the most interesting things."
Hassell's music is marked by an inherent tension. As a western-trained, classical musician, he's been accused of a sort of cultural imperialism for his use of ethnic forms. But it's that very conflict that makes it work - that provides its air of mystery and discovery. That tension was evident from the stage of his Alice Tully Hall concert with Farafina.
It was clear that some of the Africans were enthusiastically embracing this techno-primitivism, while others were reserved to the point of sullenness.
"The leader Mahama Konate, the guy that plays the balaphon, is somewhat inflexible in terms of new things", agrees Hassell. "They were suspicious at first, especially Mahama, about what could happen and why this whole thing was going on. And I have to say at certain times I asked myself the same question because if the balances weren't exactly right Dino (J A Deane) and I turned into accompanists to this African group which generally smokes no matter where it is. So at times, I found myself wondering why I was making this compromise, and because the best things that I do aren't normally so hot in terms of African or Indian or this or that, but someplace new and in between all those things. With this situation, obviously there's no escaping the fact that it's very hotly African."
The performance had many other ironies as well. When Farafina played by themselves, they went into a call and response piece, passing a percussion instrument around, that sent the crowd into a cheering frenzy. After the show, everyone commented on how exuberant and immediate that section was - I mention it because it was actually arranged by Hassell.
"The syllables and things like that were something that I arranged for them", he says with a clandestine glimmer. "I mean, I heard them playing around with each other and I said 'Why don't you do this?' It's really taking off on the Indian way tabla players like to do that and it's a big crowd pleaser so I thought it would do real well."
In the recording studio, the power of acoustic drums takes on a different significance.
"Daniel Lanois and I were sitting listening to these big speakers pumping out Farafina's drums and we just looked at each other and said, 'This could never happen with electronic percussion.' There's something about the volume of air that drums pump, there is a wonderful quality about it that's impossible to find any place else. Even if you sampled all that and tried to duplicate it, I don't think it could have the same real feel."
Balances are what Hassell's music embodies - raw power and sensuality, ancient and future history, electronics and acoustics - the future and the past.
"When I first began doing things, I always tried to have a representation of the acoustic percussion world mixed with electric things that could be considered part of the percussion spectrum. J A Deane is not a percussionist, per se; he plays trombone, so it was a function of developing a percussion station based on his abilities, and his abilities lie not only in hands on skin and inflections, but in creative programming and sampling. So it reflects that."
But even Hassell has trouble defining his sonic amalgamation. Fourth World Music, Technological-Primitive, and Glamorous-Spiritual are a few of the expressions he's derived to describe a sound that includes tablas, Senegalese drummers, birds, trumpets and synthesisers. The future-is-now romantics among us might call it the perfect music for the global village. Hassell thinks of it as "xerox art". "It's a xerox world", he says matter-of-factly. "You can take a print of this and put a print of that on top of it. It reminds me of the phrase, from Umberto Eco, that says we're living in an age of permanent transition."
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