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Bo DiddlyArticle from Music UK, May 1983 |
Bo Diddley tells Max Kay a bed-time story
"MOST ENTERTAINERS START OFF DOING ALL KINDS OF WORK, FROM SWEEPING THE STREETS...."
Although Diddley was copied himself, at a later date, by bands like the Rolling Stones and the Pretty Things, he feels no animosity towards them, reserving whatever he has for the likes of music publishers.
'I don't look for a dime from people like the Rolling Stones... I look for publishers. When they collect from people, the publishers are the ones who're supposed to pass it on to Bo Diddley. I've never ever received a penny from royalties in Europe from whoever had what, and that's a big mystery. All I know is that the bands who did pay royalties paid the right people, and I've been lookin' and lookin' and lookin' to trace all of this stuff down. I trusted a lot of people and I can't name any names because I got a thing going on with this whole situation. The Rolling Stones don't owe me anything, it's who they paid.'
Sensing that it's anecdote time, I lever Bo Diddley for any memories of those early tours he did with the Stones, and Bo looks puzzled.
'I've never played with the Stones! ... Oh — no they... erm... wait a minute... was it...? Yeah I believe it was... I think I did... Hey... it's been a long time, man!' Since Bo's memory appears to be failing him, I try to arouse the man from his slumbers by demanding to know if he'd be half the man he is without that famous guitar?
'The gittar (as Bo pronounces it) is nothing without me, y'know. That's the trademark, it's square, and it identifies me from anybody else.'
Bo Diddley's original gittar (sorry, Bo) was made by Gretsch to Diddley's specifications, after he'd built a number of them himself. The latest is made in Australia, and carries a number of effects such as wah-wah and echo built into the body of the instrument. The guitar is parked at the foot of the bed with the also famous hat perched behind my shoulder. The hat looks well worn, and the guitar? Not surprisingly, he refuses to pull it out of the case and show me, even though I assure him I'm not spying part-time for the Japanese. No, Bo's been ripped off before and he's too smart for a honky English journalist like myself.
'This one in the case is built by Chris Kingman in Brisbane,' says Bo with a smirk on his face. 'You'll see it tonight.'
"WITH ALL THE EARLY CHESS RECORDS WE JUST WENT IN AND DID IT AND THAT WAS IT."
In his time Bo Diddley has been a truck driver, a boxer and even spent 2½ years in New Mexico as a deputy sheriff, never once believing that one day he'd be a star.
'Most entertainers start off doing all kinds of work, from sweeping the streets to cleaning bathrooms and anything you can think of, and a lot of people think that they've never had it hard. I am very much down on the cats who don't pay any dues. A dude learns how to play a guitar, and they put a couple of synthesisers behind him and the cat is a millionaire in six months. I was made to go through the ropes, in other words the school of hard knocks. And not just me because I'm black. I've seen some white cats who had to go through the same stuff. Electronics has put a lot of people out there. Snatch their synthesisers and a lot of that stuff from a lot of these guys... and you've got nuthin'.
This doesn't, however, mean that Bo Diddley hates synthesisers, 'I've never used them on recordings, but I probably will. If that's what it's gonna take to stay out there, you're damn right I'm gonna use them... Get me a whole stack of 'em y'know (laughs)...'
"WHAT I'M DOIN' IS SELF TAUGHT, I'M NOT WHAT I CALL A GUITAR PLAYER"
'That's a good question,' says Bo Diddley. 'I liked the way you asked that. I believe you would name it guitar economy. I could get a guitar made in the States. How long would it last me? You don't just jump out of the clear blue sky and start building guitars. You gotta have a little time to find out what would do, what kinda wood don't warp on you, and you go through years of this. Then you talk about price, guys want too much money to build an instrument. Hey, I used to make em... guys now want three or four thousand dollars! For what?'
Bo's extremely large hands disappear below the sheets once more and I'm wondering if he's working on a new riff down there. As a regular working musician Bo Diddley travels incredibly lightly, with just the one instrument.
'It's gettin' ridiculous. How many guitars can you play in forty five minutes or an hour? It don't make any sense and I wish people would cut it out. Who needs all these amplifiers and all this crap? You don't need none of it, a couple of spare amps, extra skins for the drums, a foot pedal, and that's it. Who needs all this other shit? If the keyboard breaks down, I'm gonna take it to the shop and get it fixed, ya understand? Money goes faster than it comes in, it don't take ya long to spend $100,000.'
Bo Diddley revels in and appreciates the adulation he normally receives, but at the same time, he's under no illusions about his standing in the rock world.
'I got people fooled, I got 'em pullin' their hair out because they can't figure out what I'm doin'. What I'm doin' is self taught, I am not what I call a guitar player. I am a showman. The hands is quicker than the eyes...'
What Bo does admit to is a preference for Fender amps — he's even a friend of the old boy. Again I press him for a close-up shot of the famous square guitar and he refuses point blank. 'No,' he drawls.
Bo Diddley looks too healthy for a man who's been on the road almost 30 years, and pinpoints his healthy appearance to an abstinence from drugs, and only a little drink. 'I am not out on the streets chasin' chicks — birds, ya know? I get my rest, I got a family at home, two beautiful daughters and a wife.' Before I left Bo to continue the sleep I'd so rudely interrupted, I begged him for a few hints.
'Learn the basics, because when all the electronics go off what do you do, where do you go from there? Learn the basics and you can work anytime.'
Before we exchanged pleasantries and parted company, Bo Diddley gave vent to his feelings on a number of subjects ranging from the invention of the fuzz box, to drugs and back to record companies. The fuzz box apparently 'burst my bubble' after spending 20 years perfecting a clean sound. Drugs (or dummy dust, as he like to call them) he doesn't recommend to anybody, and record companies?
'It's a damned shame that you trust people and they do this to ya, now I'm back for what should've been comin' a long time ago...'
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