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Fiat Lux
Breaking the boundary with Andy Darlington and Fiat Lux...

"Anything we have an inclination to use in a particular context we can use without feeling that we're part of one sect or another."
There's sufficient facial similarity to betray Ian's filial relationship to Bill Nelson. And it's an obvious critical tactic to suggest nepotism at work in the Fiat Lux debut — 'Feels Like Winter Again' — which emerged on Nelson's Cocteau label. But that single was recorded (in Leeds' Ric-Rac studios), became an "NME" 'Single of the Week' and went Top Three in the Indie lists even before Ian had expanded the line-up to a three-piece. Crickmore and Wright have a history of prowling Yorkshire stage-boards in various combinations extending back some way. At the same time that Ian Nelson was honking sax with brother Bill's Red Noise, Steve was playing in "The Cabinet of Doctor Caligari" as part of the Yorkshire Actors Company; while on the radio John Peel was playing the complex jazzy singles David was cutting with the under-rated Magnificent Everything. But it was the collaborative success of 'Feels like Winter', and the subsequent national tour with Blancmange, that fused the Fiat Lux identity into a tight professional unit. From which the step to Polydor, 'Photography', and the album, were natural progressions.
"There's some room for hindsight," acknowledges Steve around a mouthful of Jammie Dodger. "Over the last couple of days I've listened to "Winter" again. It's great, but it seems really naive now I listen back to it. Not 'cos there's anything wrong with it, it's just maybe not how it would sound if we did it now."
"What we would've raved about six months ago now seems really uneventful," concurs David. "I'm glad about that. It means we're moving on all the time. If they still sounded great that would mean we weren't achieving any progression. Now we've got fairly advanced backing tracks, fairly advanced equipment, and hopefully we can come up with some fairly advanced sounds with them. In the early days the songs were slightly more basic. We were forced to rely more on the backing tapes simply because we didn't have the facility to create a lot of the synthesizer sounds we wanted. We were limited to a Casio and a sax before we had any money!"
"Now we have a lot more work to do," admits Ian. "There's more opportunity to cheat, but we don't want to do that. The responsibility falls on us to play a great deal more of the keyboard and synth parts live on stage. It now tends to be more a percussion-orientated backing tape. But a lot of the parts on the album which appear to be triggered mechanically and sequenced are actually played in real time. What we've done in a lot of cases is actually to replace certain voices on the Linn-drum with real drums which we've set up in the studio. So the sounds are actually original drum sounds triggered through digital delay units. They give the impression of being sequenced because they're quite repetitive and synced up to a particular pulse, but they're not actually done mechanically. They're done live by human beings".
"We were limited to a Casio and a sax before we had any money!"
"You can use the TR808 which was once hailed as the best drum machine you could get. It's got separate voices on it and everything. But although it's now been superceded by the Linn it's still as useful because it has some interesting sounds which aren't obvious Linn sounds. You can use it in conjunction with other triggered sounds, through something like an AMS (which can hold a sample of sound, which could be a live sound, and use that to trigger the machines)."
Ian sits forward for emphasis. "The problem with drum machines is that, because technology's becoming cheaper and is available to almost everybody, they're now so widely used. There's only a certain number of permutations to the Linndrum sound regardless of what chips you put in. But if you actually combine it with this technique of using real drum-sounds digitally reproduced, and treating them in different ways, you can get away from the stereotyped drum machine sound. There's nothing wrong with certain sounds off certain drum machines. No matter how cheap they are, some of them have an interesting characteristic that can be used in a particular song. But it's useful to have the facility to be able to combine them with more sophisticated things. We've always tried to avoid using the machines in the conventional sense."
The limitations lie with the musician, they infer, not the technology. Donning my agent provocateur's hat (a jaunty pork-pie model!) I suggest that, whereas the electro-pop format was once vaguely revolutionary in its implications, it's now become an establishment. So much so that a new generation of bands — like Red Guitars from Hull — are reverting back to re-stating the importance of traditional Rock instrumentation.
"There's a case for one or the other," concedes Steve. "But what we've tried to do is integrate all instruments into what we're doing." David nods animatedly. "The thing is, not to put a limit on it," he argues. "Like on those tracks you just heard, we've got things as old as the hills. There's a Mellotron doing some of the parts because they have a distinctive sound that's uncreatable outside Fairlightland."
"There's nothing wrong with certain sounds off certain drum machines. No matter how cheap they are."
Voices overlap like three-part fully-interlocking harmony as Fiat Lux warm to the dialogue. "Obviously we still use 'real' bass guitars and guitars. In fact there's a slightly heavier lean towards guitars on a lot of new stuff. Just to give it a harder edge. We had that edge in the beginning because things were more primitive. Now we get it by using a bit more guitar here and there. There's more guitar, but not because we're lagging behind this trend Folks! But because some of the songs need more zappiness."
Steve sums up. "This whole thing about reverting back to restating the importance of traditional instrumentation is like saying that the only way good popular contemporary rock music can be made is by using the guitar. What did Bill Nelson call it — a plank of wood with wires on? And it is just that. If a song is suitable then sure, use it. But I don't see that that provides any justification for proclaiming "We're a GUITAR BAND. We're not one of those wimpy synthi-pop bands."
"It's exactly the same prejudice that began the whole synth-orientated thing," protests David. "It'll go round in trends like that, and I don't think we want to be a part of that. We want to feel that anything we have an inclination to use in a particular context we can use without feeling that we're part of one sect or another. If it needs a Hoover — we'll use one."
As the last finely textured notes of the Fiat Lux album fade on my domestic sound centre it becomes obvious that the novelty phase of 'machine music' is a long time dead; bands like Fiat Lux are bringing back human warmth. In the same way that they've integrated their modernist studio into its rural setting, and mated electric with acoustic sounds, they've humanised their machines, redeploying their characteristics in the perspective of musical considerate is.
"That was one of the things that differentiated us from the average synthesizer band in the beginning," explains David. "Most synth bands relied on the monotone-type format, with the synthesizers fizzing away to add the melody. We always went for the melody, with synthesizers adding texture and arrangement." They're restating the importance of the song.
Ian stands to emphatically kill the tape machine. "Things have to change and adapt because times are changing. There's a lot of looking back, a lot of stasis. We're not interested in reviving the Sixties, the Fifties, or even the Forties. Were quite content to rape the Nineties."
Fiat Lux boot historical considerations and hit the current moving targets of cult and culture precisely. If you have room in your heart for just one more...
Interview by Andy Darlington
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